You must log in or register to reply here. Posted in Troubleshooting, By ============= PAYPAL ================Prefer to donate via PayPal?You can donate to us right here: https://paypal.me/ibracorpWe really appreciate your support in any shape or form. I see these posts so often, but you'll get a bunch of solutions that may not be targeted to solving your issue. Use Proxmox to run VMs and LXC containers. Used to have everything on my Proxmox system. TrueNasis considered more stable and allows you to use ZFS which is quite resilient. We think our community is one of the best thanks to people like you! But theres more to a hypervisor than that - just as theres more to TrueNAS Core than FreeBSD and ZFS. So by all intents and purposes therefore Type 1, even though the VMs run as processes in the OS (Type 2?). Truenas scale supports containers and VMs so can replace proxmox altogether, trying it out these days. As compute power evolved (FreeNas in specific, sure its the same for similar products) found new ways of running extra functionality (jails, originally limited iirc), but ever expanding in capabilites; today as every major OS (FreeBSD included) has a virtualization component ready you can run most of the services on a TN box, just as you indicated. But it does not support ZFS. The Proxmox community has been around for many years and offers help and support for For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Alternatively, consider Starwind SAN and NAS which was designed to be running as VM and supports both ZFS and mdadm. Started 31 minutes ago Proxmox is Debian, so the components needed for a NAS can be installed from Debian repositories, but their configuration and management would be through the command line. TruNas Scale seems to indicate that it supports Docker and K8S via the interface. OR, does it make any difference? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Thou less out of the box easy setup of basic services. I've been using TrueNAS scale to run my dockers, VMS, and as a NAS. But I think all has been said, and plenty of info in this thread for OP to hopefully make an informed decision. That is how I currently have it set up. Have. What problem are you trying to solve? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. To start, Proxmox pulls in its own kernel (in turn based on Ubuntu) and various other packages too. TrueNAS in a Proxmox VM with SSD/HDD passthrough Lo-Res DIY 3.62K subscribers Subscribe 475 20K views 1 year ago #loresdiy We'll install TrueNAS in a Proxmox VM and pass a pair of ssd's. Less plugins for certain stuff like file integrity (glares at unraid). IMO, it sounds like your primary use cases are more suited to PVE. Register for the iXsystems Community to get an ad-free experience. Unplug the HBA or the drives so you don't accidentally wipe anything essential. It may not display this or other websites correctly. One of Proxmoxs problem is that it tries to support a very wide range of hardware, in comparison with ESXi which as we know is extremely picky. It wasn't even supposed to get to this point. And if there are any potential issues. I'm new to Proxmox. Running TrueNAS under Proxmox is not recommended and has been problematic for some users. You are using an out of date browser. Pass-through has been officially experimental for many years but for what it's worth it has worked as well as or better for me than in ESXi that I used prior. Desktop:i7-5960X4.4GHz, Noctua NH-D14, ASUS Rampage V, 32GB, RTX3080, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0,Corsair HX1200,Thermaltake Overseer RX1, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max. Still, it does not have NAS Linux packages installed out of the box. ============= PAYPAL ================Prefer to donate via PayPal?You can donate to us right here: https://paypal.me/ibracorpWe really appreciate your support in any shape or form. I.e. I wanted to move to Proxmox due to limitations and a few issues. Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200ProRAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan),Custom 4.7l 3D printed case, Asus Zenbook UM325UA, Ryzen 7 5700u, 16GB, 1TB, OLED. BlueIris Wrinkle ProxMox does better with pure virtualization but the backup stuff is. Plug HBA or drives back in. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I blame this sub for my constant upgrades , Press J to jump to the feed. 35. The wait is over. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Mainline: MacBook Air M1Display(s): Acer K272HUL; VIOTEK - GNV32DBKeyboard/Mouse: Logitech M720/K780Sound: AirPods 3Operating System: MacOSPhone: iPhone 13 Pro (Graphite). You must log in or register to reply here. You can pass the actual drive controller through and TrueNAS will have hardware access to the drives like it wants. You are using an out of date browser. Running TrueNAS inside a Proxmox VM is not the best solution but can be done. Posted in Storage Devices, By JavaScript is disabled. The latter isnt even out of beta yet. Oct 9, 2021. After reading a lot on truenas core, truenas scale and proxmox, the best choice will be truenas scale for my need (nas, run some VM, plex, nextcloud, bitwarden.) Proxmox VE is a decent system, storage, and network virtualization environment. Tony79 Along with lots of other projects. TrueNAS NFS for Proxmox Jared Rhodes Home Lab June 7, 2021 4 Minutes While setting the server closet at the office, the first thing setup was a TrueNAS Core server. I am sure there is a good development/engineering reason for it though. (Could add as well that the Type 1 vs 2 discussion in the link you provided is very moot. In that sense, you're unlikely to get stranded since you're largely building on base Linux capabilities. The official release of SCALE was just published a couple of days ago. TrueNAS/Scale is a NAS OS first. This may not be a thing to do if you value your data. As PCIe-Passthru has matured, fewer problems are reported. Devonte188 Thanks for the information. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Proxmox is great as a hypervisor and have way more tweakability and tools for easy VM management. Powered by Invision Community. Looking to build a single do-it-all box for a small business. Also just to actually help answer the question even tho I still hold that just using proxmox is best, use Clonezilla to copy VMs or even bare metal installs from place to place. I use TrueNas Core for my NAS requirements without any issues. Whereas storage is more foundation and built upon from there. ZFS, Proxmox, Truenas.We'll give you the end result first, showing how it lo. Well, you can always virtualize NAS functionality as a container or VM on a Proxmox host. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Openstack going probably a bit further than what I'd need unless I pushed hard supporting decentralized projects such as sia, storj, etc. Proxmox is an immature hypervisor and its PCIe passthru is still considered experimental. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. TrueCharts will help, but I think it will need burn in time for folks to really evaluate it and for the devs to adjust. durfsurn I'm new to trueness scale and have been running proxmox for maybe a month but a noob here. If you are looking for a guide on installing TrueNAS core, a good one can be found here. You must log in or register to reply here. No confusion. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Unable to add Listener application gateway v1, Ladies and gentleman, my network. JavaScript is disabled. why would you run virtual machines on truenas scale running on proxmox? Done exactly this. This has made my actual TrueNas server redundant which I could sell or just keep it as a backup server. Also note that OP is asking about Proxmox vs TrueNAS Scale. I was not aware. So Im soon to be setting up a new homelab and Im wondering if you recommend installing Proxmox or TrueNAS scale on my host. Box would serve as both a file storage NAS and platform of a handful of VMs. Im just wondering how far we have until truenas scale is similar to proxmox in terms of gui support? Pass-through has been officially experimental for many years but for what its worth it has worked as well as or better for me than in ESXi that I used prior. Linus Media Group is not associated with these services. I have been doing that, and just like in a professional setting I am slowly rolling changes to "prod" as I test and approve them. The idea is to use a fast nvme for the Truenas virtual disk and a Truenas Log d-dev, but not necessarily only for the Truenas VM, other VMs can be installed there. but i prefer to wait the stable version. On 6/20/2022 at 1:22 AM, Joseph Stacklin said: Process to move VMs from Proxmox 7.2 to TrueNAS SCALE? I can access my qcows but would like to move all my virtualization to one system. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Proxmox team works very hard to make sure you are running the best software and getting stable updates and security enhancements, as well as quick enterprise support. Check that truenas can see the hardware then import pool. Started 31 minutes ago But it is still not ready and to me personally it can never replace Proxmox. I run truenas under proxmox, best of both worlds. Been scouring the internet for a bit, but can't find any information. Part one of our new series brings you IBRANAS, the NAS killer. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Proxmox community has been around for many years and offers help and support for I don't want to buy another server and . Posted in Windows, By Install proxmox onto boot drive. Proxmox VE: Installation and configuration. Register for the iXsystems Community to get an ad-free experience. Cleaned up the rack.. A lot used to be on top of it.. You get HA and clustering using battle-tested open source technologies, and you can get pro support with 2hr response time. Also my experience with TrueNAS is that it goes better with your storage and backups. If you want to really get your hands dirty and host different machines/projects Proxmox is the way to go. TrueNAS got a easy to use webgui and sensible defaults for quick management of ZFS and services like SMB/NFS, scheduled Smart and scrubs with reports and alerts, rsync replication tasks etc. TrueNAS Scale's KVM instead of Proxmox - Seeking Hands-on Experiences. F@H Desktop: i7-5960X 4.4GHz, Noctua NH-D14, ASUS Rampage V, 32GB, RTX3080, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Thermaltake Overseer RX1, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max From the beginning, my plan was to create a fresh install of TrueNAS SCALE, export my 7-drive pool from my old NAS, import it into the DIY NAS: 2022 Edition, and rebuild everything from scratch. Install truenas into inventory and shut down. I am running the Alpha right now, and it still has a ways. Proxmox How to Install and Virtualize TrueNAS with Proxmox Techno Tim 129K subscribers Join Subscribe 3.7K 122K views 2 years ago Do you want a DIY NAS? It wasn't even supposed to get to this point. I get that by design and as named they chose k3s to be able to scale the storage and pods as well, but not many homelabs actually run multi storage deployments. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If you just want simplicity and store your data, TrueNAS is the way to go. Started January 3, By Beg to differ. You are using an out of date browser. sush Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Why do you want to do that? Second hand Dell PERC H310 or H710 crossflashed into IT-mode should be the cheapest (35) with great driver support and could fit 4 SAS or 8 SATA disks. Mobile SFF rig: i9-9900K, Noctua NH-L9i, Asrock Z390 Phantom ITX-AC, 32GB, GTX1070, 2x1TB SX8200ProRAID0, 2x5TB 2.5" HDD RAID0, Athena 500W Flex (Noctua fan). But, nevertheless it has often seemed to me I'd either end up learning openstack or find a solution like Truenas Scale to fit the bill. I'm using proxmox and unraid server atm. colonel_mortis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd6lpM01FY&t=1104s, HOWTO: Using a pair of large SSDs with boot and data pools for SCALE. Proxmox is Debian, so the components needed for a NAS can be installed from Debian repositories, but their configuration and management would be through the command line.Well, you can always virtualize NAS functionality as a container or VM on a Proxmox host. Ramrod126 In addition to that, I also wanted to move my virtual machines from my Homelab server onto this new DIY NAS. Host two VMs and 1 LXC container with a Docker server. Started 12 minutes ago How to install and set up TrueNAS as a virtual machine with a passthrough of hard drives or storage TrueNas Scale on SSD USB3 - HPE MicroServer GEN10+ [Pentium G5420, 32Go, PCIe Dual M2 (2xSamsung 860 Evo 512Go)]. Is disabled to go to hopefully make an informed decision Community to get to point. 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